
Frontier-Level Red-Teaming From a Self-Hostable Open-Weight Model: Testing NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Super
Orca Security's research team built an internal prototype, Agent Piercer, that attacks AI agents by choosing probes, writing attacks and judging whether they worked. They compared NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Super (self-hosted on 4×L40S via SageMaker) with Opus 4.8, GPT-6 Astra and Grok 4.7 as the driving model against the same live target. Nemotron matched the frontier models on vulnerability types found (four) and was the only one to complete every simple test and judge all 57 real attack conversations. The post also notes that some proprietary models declined authorized red-team tasks under default safety settings, which makes self-hosted open-weight models attractive for offensive testing.
What it is
Orca's write-up of a head-to-head test of which model should drive Agent Piercer, its internal prototype for red-teaming AI agents. The prototype chooses probes, writes attacks, runs them against a live target agent and judges whether each worked. The harness, tools, instructions, tasks and target were held constant, so the model was the only variable.
How it works
- Models: NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Super (120B total, 12B active parameters), Claude Opus 4.8, GPT-6 Astra and Grok 4.7.
- Nemotron deployment: the NVFP4 build, self-hosted on Amazon SageMaker on 4 × NVIDIA L40S GPUs.
- Tested: probe choice, attack writing, judging 57 real attack conversations, and a false-alarm check.
- Measured: vulnerability types found, completion of simple test prompts, how many real conversations each model judged, and agreement with the other judges.
Results the page gives
| Model | Vulnerability types | Simple tests | Real conversations judged |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nemotron 3.5 Super | 4 (own probes and fixed probe set) | 20/20 on every test | 57 of 57 |
| Opus 4.8 | 4 | matched Nemotron | 27 of 57 |
| GPT-6 Astra | 4 | dropped points | 57 of 57 |
| Grok 4.7 | not stated | dropped points | 57 of 57 |
The practical point is consistency. Opus judged fewer than half the real conversations, and the page warns that a clean report may only mean the model stopped trying.
The page also says Nemotron completed authorized security-testing tasks that some proprietary models declined under default safety settings. It does not name the models or the tasks.
What to do
If you are considering an LLM-driven agent red-teamer, run any candidate model through the same harness and track two things besides findings:
- per-step completion on simple tasks
- the share of attack transcripts it actually judges
The page argues the test should rerun whenever the agent gains a new tool, prompt or data source, which is why self-hosting on infrastructure you control matters.
Caveats
- This is a vendor experiment on one prototype, which is not released ("an experiment, not a product"), against one target agent. There is no cost, latency or reproduction detail.
- The page is inconsistent on scope. Key Findings say Nemotron was tested against "five frontier models" and matched "most" on vulnerability types, but only three comparators are listed.
- No false-alarm or judge-agreement figures are given, and Grok 4.7's vulnerability count is not stated.
- Orca itself says the refusal difference "does not necessarily indicate superior underlying capabilities."
Organisations named here
- Agent Piercer
Technologies named here
- Live target agent used in Orca's comparison
- Amazon SageMaker – hosting platform for self-hosted Nemotron
- GPT-6 Astra
- Grok
- Amazon SageMaker
- LLM
- Opus 4.8
- NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Super
Techniques named here
- Data exfiltration from AI agents
- AI-driven automated red-teaming of agents
- Prompt Injection
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